Thursday, September 28, 2006

Designer's Best

These categories are for the best games of a particular designer.

6 Comments:

Blogger mark aka pastor guy said...

The designer "best" categories have been interesting, but they really aren't the heart & soul of The Apples Project.

That'll start on Monday when we begin releasing the results of the categories based on themes, mechanisms & other stuff that enable us to truly compare apples to apples.

5:54 AM  
Blogger Kevin_Whitmore said...

Here's an idea...
As Apple Pickers, we could rank the importance of each of the designers listed. We could list our top 5 categories of the designer categories, and you could assign them ranks like all the other blog entries.

So, for example, my top 5 designer categories would be:

Klaus Teuber
Wolfgang Kramer (heavy)
Wolfgang Kramer (light)
Alan Moon
Reiner Knizia (light)


I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth. However, some of the commentary illustrates how we have a higher regard for some of our winning designers over others.

Why not enumerate our biases?

8:14 AM  
Anonymous Erik Arneson said...

Interesting idea, Kevin. Here are my top 5 designer categories:

Alan Moon
Reiner Knizia (heavier)
Bruno Faidutti
Reiner Knizia (lighter)
Klaus Teuber

Cheers,
Erik

10:56 AM  
Blogger daveva said...

This is a good idea, and I think I'll post mine here before Mark tells us to stop and sends us all an email instead :-)

I based my ranking on my top ten games, then worked down through the games I rate 9.5, then 9. I weighted points for each designer based on how high their games rank on my list, dividing Kramer and Knizia by Apples Project category.

My list:

Kramer light
Kramer heavy
Knizia light
Knizia Heavy
Moon

Next tier (in order):
Richard Borg, Faidutti, Teuber, Frank Nestel, and the Eon team (Olotka et al.)

Dave

2:05 PM  
Blogger huzonfirst said...

Kevin shoots...and scores! Here's my top designers (based on their best games, just as we're doing here, not their total body of work):

Kramer heavy
Knizia heavy
Moon
Knizia light
Sackson

The top two are very close, and the drop to Moon isn't much at all. Then a sizable drop to the #4 spot and a big drop to fifth. Sackson, Teuber, Dorra, and Schacht are all clumped together. Kramer light is way down the list, just ahead of Faidutti and Colovini.

By the way, if I was going to do this for ALL designers, not just the ones we included, the list would look very different. It would be something like this:

Kramer heavy
Knizia heavy
Moon
Dorn
Knizia light
Wallace
Friese
Kiesling
Rosenberg
Seyfarth
Weissblum

Only then would I get to the Sackson et al group, joined by Gunter Cornett, Tom Lehmann, and a few others.

Just as an aside, I think the designer lists are at least as interesting to me as the other ones, and certainly more consistent. An Alan Moon game is an Alan Moon game, but, as we'll see, the definition of what a City Building game is, or even what a Train game is, can be very much open to question.

6:24 PM  
Anonymous Dave Arnott said...

Okay, this is weird...

I checked the designers on my BGG 10's, and, well...

I have ALL of these, but only ONE of each. One of each! It's a 7-way tie!

In no particular order:

Schacht
Kramer light
Sackson
Teuber
Knizia light
Dorra
Randolph

I don't even double Kramer or Knizia with a "heavy" entry. AND... if you take into account my other 10's, it's an even bigger tie. Yes, I also have only one 10 for each of these:

Keyaerts
Rosenberg
Merkle
Doris & Frank
Henn
Fitzgerald/Borg
Garfield (sorta)


Plus, lesser-known names:

Joli
Hartwig
Whoever did Taboo

Wow. I never really knew how balanced I was. Or maybe I'm just afraid to offend anyone :)

2:36 PM  

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