Tuesday, February 13, 2007


The best board & card games dealing with politics...

Just missed the cut:

Also nominated:

For comparison, the top five games from 2002:



Blogger mark aka pastor guy said...

First: Die Macher won running away... despite a 4-hour playing time & reasonably steep learning curve.

Second: yes, there are only 4 "winners" this time... that's because a number of the Apple Pickers chose not to select 5 games in the voting process.

Third: El Grande was no longer eligible, as we had a stricter definition of "political" this time around.

1:32 PM  
Blogger dave said...

Quo Vadis is a glaring omission.

8:24 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

The Republic of Rome fits the "Political" theme best of all the games listed. Shame that so few people have ever played the game and experienced it. I guess it hurts a bit that it's just as much a roleplaying game as it is a boardgame.

1:42 AM  
Blogger Chris Farrell said...

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10:19 AM  
Blogger Chris Farrell said...

I'll just comment that I think this category was excessively vague, even more so than usual. The nomination list covered all sorts of things, from games with political themes, to games with titles that sounded like they might be political, to games that used the word "political" in the rules, to games that involved negotiation of some kind, to the inscrutable (Power Lunch?). As such, I really didn't understand what this category was getting at.

So, I nominated games that I felt like had both political themes and themes that were tightly integrated: Die Macher, Kremlin, Dune, Republic of Rome, and Quo Vadis. I voted for Diplomacy, although felt it was borderline (the theme of Diplomacy is war, not politics, even though the gameplay is political).

I would not consider Twilight Struggle or Liberte political games. Twilight Struggle isn't about politics, and while Liberte is, it's too abstract in my opinion - El Grande would have been a better choice, and if Liberte is in, I don't understand why El Grande is not. As for Twilight Struggle, I would have preferred the classic and much more overtly political Cold War.

But I didn't understand a lot about this category.

10:27 AM  
Anonymous Daniel Brown said...

I would switch the order of Die Macher and Diplomacy ( I have been playing Diplomacy for years so that has tained my opinion). All in all, I must agree with this list. I did not share Chris's confusion but I do understand where he is coming from.

1:21 PM  
Blogger huzonfirst said...

I think the complaints about the category being vague are accurate, but the problem is there are so few classic political games. If you're looking for an actual election theme, you have Die Macher, Mr. President, Stimmvieh, and I guess Europa. Republic of Rome is hardly a stretch, but there really isn't much else. Thus the extension to games involving *politics*, some of which are very tenuous connections. Maybe it isn't an appropriate category.

I went with a little more of a strict definition of a political game, so the only winners I voted for was Die Macher (and this is a game I've only managed to play once!) and Liberte. My other choices were Struggle of Empires, Mr. President, and Himilaya. Diplomacy is a fantastic game, but I just don't see it as political.

My other two nominations were Stimmvieh and Illuminati, and the latter was frankly stretching the definition. I'm not sure why I didn't support Quo Vadis--it sounds like it belongs here and is a fine game. Andrea Meyer's Stimmvieh had no chance, since only a few hundred copies exist, but it's a very good filler and is worthy of at least a nomination.

By the way, the next time we do this, 1960: The Making of the President is a lock!

8:51 AM  

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