Monday, December 18, 2006

Wargames Eurogamers Love

The best "wargames" that attract the attention & admiration of Eurogamers...
Also nominated:
This was not a category in 2002, so there is no comparison available.

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Blogger Kevin_Whitmore said...

I didn't think much about the title of this entry when it first appeared. But watching some devisive battles over at Boardgamegeek; I have come to realize the labels we toss around seem to have bigger meanings to some people.

I am much more likely to play a Eurogame than any other sort. But I have a sizable Avalon Hill collection, Magic Cards, even a miniatures-style game.

"Wargames Eurogamers Love" tells everyone we are Eurogamers. I guess this is true. But I don't think of myself as an "exclusively Eurogamer". I just like games. Eurogames are a staple of my diet. But go back ten years ago and a different type of game was the diet. I'm a gamer first, a Eurogamer second.

3:22 PM  
Blogger Chris Farrell said...

When Mark sent out the alert that these games were posted, he said "Yikes... your Christmas present: a chance to watch wargamers whine about our anemic choices. :-)" (sorry Mark).

But these really aren't that bad. I mean, M44 is a decent game, and nice for wargamers and eurogamers. You can't really complain about Wallenstein or Twilight Struggle, even though I wouldn't exactly call either highly replayable.

I am a little surprised though to see nothing from Columbia making the list, not even Hammer of the Scots (even though it is, IMHO, overrated). Napoleon or War of 1812 would both have been excellent picks.

I'm also surprised by the absence of War of the Ring, even though - again - I can't be called a huge fan.

Some games I nominated that I'm a bit surprised didn't see the light of day even on the nomination list included Rommel in the Desert, Breakout: Normandy, and Revolution: The Dutch Revolt 1568-1648. Although I'm not personally a huge fan, I'm surprised Friedrich didn't make more of an impression. Same comment for Bonaparte at Marengo.

If I never have to play Vinci again, I'll be happy. I'm a little surprised the voters would even consider it a wargame, but I'm obviously a bit more towards the wargame end.

3:37 PM  
Blogger daveva said...

My nominations in this category (we got to nominate seven games) were Battle Cry, Memoir '44, Nexus Ops, Space Hulk, We the People, Quebec 1759, and War of 1812. The final two, block games from Columbia, weren't nominated by the Apple Pickers and I had to write those in (which meant there was little chance they'd be on the final nomination list).

My final votes (we only got to vote for five) went to Battle Cry, Memoir '44, Nexus Ops, We the People, and Wings of War.

I'd be tempted to consider Battle Cry and Memoir '44 as one game. Even though they were nominated as two games, and I voted for them as separate games, they're children of the same system, after all. This would allow another deserving game to be in the top five.

Like Kevin, I'm more likely to play a Euro over a wargame, but I play the seven I nominated fairly often. Chris rightly notes the appeal of the Columbia games. The two Columbia games I nominated are superb (better than Hammer of the Scots IMO). Each takes but 45-90 minutes, offers clear and simple rules, and surprising replayability. It's a shame more Euorgamers haven't played either of these.

5:38 AM  
Anonymous Aaron Silverman said...

From some folks' perspective, you could have titled this list "Eurogames That Wargamers Love!"

12:54 PM  
Blogger huzonfirst said...

I really am a confirmed eurogamer. Even among the hybrid games, there aren't all that many I like. Of the five winners, Vinci is the only one I play. Of course, I haven't tried Battle Cry or Memoir, but there's a reason for that--I doubt if either would appeal to me. Twilight Struggle, on the other hand, is a game I do need to play; a long two-player game isn't one I'm likely to get to play often, but there's a very good chance I'll like it a lot.

Most of my other nominations made the full list, including Dip, AGoT, SoE, and Shogun (the MB game). The two that didn't were Mare Nostrum (another game that suffered because it fell short of the promised "Civ Lite" label) and Derek Carver's old Blood Royale. The latter is more of an activity than a game, since there aren't any endgame conditions, but it's an amazing design--too bad it takes all day to play!

8:31 PM  

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